Tuesday, May 28, 2013

Refutation of Limited Atonement Part 5

Here's the program.

On today's podcast, I finished my series on Limited Atonement. I responded to a lecture titled "Limited Atonement and Hard Texts" by pastor Mathew Haney. I dealt with arguments from John 17 and the nature of propitiation. I also discussed universalistic texts from 2 Peter and 1 Timothy. If you haven't heard the other programs, here are the other parts of the series:

Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4



I also mentioned that someone started a petition to send to James White for him to debate me on the extent of the atonement. If you would like to see that feel free to sign it here.

Update: I was made aware that something happened with the audio in this podcast. I fixed the mistake (mostly) and reuploaded the file. There are a few seconds where the audio gets weird around the 8:30 mark, but it gets back to normal.

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Jason, there's a problem with the recording of the lecture, and no way to fast-forward through it.

Anonymous said...

Jason -- there's a problem with the recording of the lecture and no way to fast-forward through it.

Jordan Cooper said...

Where is the issue? It seemed fine when I recorded it.

Anonymous said...

Sorry for the double post and messing up your name, JORDAN: About a minute in, the sound slows to a pitch such that you can't make out what is being said, almost like a tape being played at the wrong speed.

Jordan Cooper said...

I fixed and reuploaded the file. It's still weird for a few seconds, but the rest of it is fixed.

Bruce Zittlow said...

I noticed that our erstwhile bible teacher, in talking about John 10 couldn't resist contrasting the sheep there with the goats. It's quite typical for Calvinists to do. However, goats are nowhere mentioned in John's gospel. In one of the synoptics they do appear, but only on the last day for judgement. But Calvinists commonly conflate the two gospels to enhance their argument.

J. Dean said...

Seems like the pastor is also shooting himself in the foot in his exposition of 2 Peter and Jude with regard to the "once-saved-always-saved" doctrine. He came across as if he was sacrificing this doctrine in the process.

Jordan Cooper said...

Bruce- That's an excellent point. I hadn't thought about the fact that John doesn't even contrast the sheep and goats anywhere in his gospel.

J. Dean- That was my thought exactly.